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    I want to put the 6 pot calipers on my TLS. Do I have to get the master cyclinder also or is it just better to? Has anyone used the stock m/c with the 6 pot brakes and then change to the TLR m/c and noticed the difference? I was going to just get ss braided lined and EBC HH pad with my stock brakes but I think I will get the 6 pots, ss lines, and EBC HH pads.
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  • #2
    You do not HAVE to do anything. They just bolt on. I will tell you though, I have done the mod. myself and I haven't noticed a huge difference. I think that a higher volume master cylinder and SS lines would make a big difference.

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    • #3
      You can get GSXR 750 calipers 96-99. That is what I had on my TLS.

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      • #4
        Havent mounted my set yet but will let you know asap.
        Originally posted by TLCURT
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        • #5
          Originally posted by scubabiker
          You do not HAVE to do anything. They just bolt on. I will tell you though, I have done the mod. myself and I haven't noticed a huge difference. I think that a higher volume master cylinder and SS lines would make a big difference.
          It would be nice to know what you had before the 6 pots, like what pads, SS lines etc so we could compare.

          I for one thought that going from the stock TLS 4 pots with SS lines to the 6 pots with SS lines and EBC HH+ pads was a HUGE difference. I said it in another post, it is the BEST mod I have made to my TLS so far.

          The answer to the actual question is: The big M/C will give you a bit more lever, the smaller M/C has a bit of "sponge" to it no matter how long you bleed the brakes. I am still running the stock M/C so it is usable, just not as rock hard as it could be.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Davcruz
            It would be nice to know what you had before the 6 pots, like what pads, SS lines etc so we could compare.

            I for one thought that going from the stock TLS 4 pots with SS lines to the 6 pots with SS lines and EBC HH+ pads was a HUGE difference. I said it in another post, it is the BEST mod I have made to my TLS so far.

            The answer to the actual question is: The big M/C will give you a bit more lever, the smaller M/C has a bit of "sponge" to it no matter how long you bleed the brakes. I am still running the stock M/C so it is usable, just not as rock hard as it could be.


            I went from the stock 4 pistons with SS lines and cheap pads to 6 pistons with HH+ pads and the difference was unbelievable. But...to do it right you really need the 5/8 MC to go with the new calipers.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Davcruz
              It would be nice to know what you had before the 6 pots, like what pads, SS lines etc so we could compare.
              I am running the stock 4 pots and pads with black SS brake lines front and rear.
              Today my 6 pots just arrived in the mail (yes it is Monday in Japan)

              I'm switching to RK 55 gold fine alloy pads...

              I'll post how good they feel later...
              Just a few mods:

              Silver, the fastest color!

              On the inside - HID type bulbs, K&N filter, Iridium ix plugs, 16T front sprocket, Coerce billet sprocket cover, Yosh re-map +5, +5, +5 11 o'clock, Scorpio SE-i500 system from my GB and an ATRE.

              On the outside - TLR forks, front carbon fender, 5/8th master brake cylinder, black SS brake lines (frnt & rear), braking waves all around with Ti bolts, Brembo gold front calipers & a busa gold rear caliper, flush mount signals (frnt & rear), ZG DB scr

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Davcruz
                It would be nice to know what you had before the 6 pots, like what pads, SS lines etc so we could compare.

                I for one thought that going from the stock TLS 4 pots with SS lines to the 6 pots with SS lines and EBC HH+ pads was a HUGE difference. I said it in another post, it is the BEST mod I have made to my TLS so far.

                The answer to the actual question is: The big M/C will give you a bit more lever, the smaller M/C has a bit of "sponge" to it no matter how long you bleed the brakes. I am still running the stock M/C so it is usable, just not as rock hard as it could be.



                I did the same almost. I went from the stock calipers with decent pads and Goodridge lines to the 6 potters with Goodridge racing pads and there was a huge difference. I still use the stock M/c, and I think it works fine for me. I use two finger braking so I'm happy to sacrifice a little more lever travel for better feel.

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the replies. What mastercyclinder will bolt right up to my clipon I know the tlr will but how about the busa one
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                  • #10
                    ?? I'm not sure of any one other than the "R", but I'm sure something else must fit.. THe M/C says "5/8" on the back of it instead of the "14" that the stock one uses..

                    I made the swap from stock-stock to TLR/kevlar/+HH and I love it.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks Bill I'll probably do it all at the same time so I dont have to bleed the brakes again later
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stabber
                        Thanks for the replies. What mastercyclinder will bolt right up to my clipon I know the tlr will but how about the busa one
                        Stabber, the Busa master cyl will bolt straight onto the clip on, but bare in mind that it is not the remote res type like the TLR .
                        Im running one on my TLS at the mo and it works a treat but if its looks your after as well as performance the remote resavoir types look best

                        Dave UK
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                        • #13


                          What does M/C, HH+ mean?

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                          • #14
                            Thanks for the replies. What mastercyclinder will bolt right up to my clipon I know the tlr will but how about the busa one
                            You can use just about any master cylinder off of any bike as long as it has a 7/8" diameter and is at least a 5/8" piston. Yamaha R1, 96-99 GSXR750, 01-02 GSXR1000, and Ducati 996 748 for example. Or just go with an aftermarket Brembo radial in 19x18 or 19x20.
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                            • #15
                              Man, I'm running stock calipers and pads on my '97... It must be classified as borderline dangerous!

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