VTR-1000 or TL

[Marshall]

One of my friends has a 02'GSXR1000, anyway last night he brought up that the bike shop has a few 00' 02' TLR's and that one of our other friends now works in a bike shop and that he may catch up with him to see what kind of deal he can get on a VTR1000 not the sp2 but the one that looks like a TL's.

So what Im asking is what are the pros and cons of both the TLR and the VTR and even the Tl's for that mater. Just so I can help lead him away from Honda over to Suzuki.

Do the VTR's have any major problems

Im going to get him on my TLR for a while this weekend, so he can see what a twin is like to ride.

cheers,

[horkn]

you talking rc 51 sp1? or superhawk? sounds like rc 51 to me. if hes tall, the arsey will be a pain in the arsey. the tiller has way more room. if he's talking vtr1000f superhawk, well, hes out gunned by either tlr or tls....

[Marshall]

I dont know my Honda's but i believe it's the vtr1000f superhawk (US) it's called the Firestorm in Australia, the one we can all afford, not the RC-51 (honda's superbike).

it's similar to this thing

[horkn]

the tl R or s will make the firstorm the superhawk is a super slouch.... compared to a TL..... just look at th specs to compare....

[kevh]

unless he is looking for a touring bike, get him away from the stooperhawk. honda engineered every bit of morotcycle out of that one as far as i am concerned. the thing has zero attitude (like alot of hondas). the superhawk is closer to a bandit in purpose than a tl (not counting the v-twin aspect). it rides like a standard with a small fairing.

[TLSBill]

If you thing the TL's have bad gas range.. The vtr is even worse. 90 miles max.. incl reserve.. (from some article somewhere years ago, when these things were popular..)

[crashtd]

let's put it this way...if my mom wanted to get into motorcycling...i'd put here on chickhawk

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[kevh]

Originally posted by TLSBill
If you thing the TL's have bad gas range.. The vtr is even worse. 90 miles max.. incl reserve.. (from some article somewhere years ago, when these things were popular..)

they were popular?

[TLstreak]

The superchickens rear suspension is connected to the engine For that reason alone I wouldnt have one. Youll always have movement on the ass end.

[SDTLR]

crash

the worst bike out there IMO Aren't they supposed to redesign it this year.

[Edwin]

Yes, the Superhawk uses the engine case as a stressed member of the frame. The swingarm connects to the engine case also. I have heard of the case cracking at the swingarm pivot.

Not good.

The TLR LOOKS better, has more torque, is faster, more roomy, LOOKS better, and looks better.

[Miles B]

What kind of price?? I was in Peter Stevens yesterday and they had brand new VTRs for like 11 grand...

[kevh]

11 grand? i hope them are oz dollars

[Steve TLS]

That be $7150USD approx.

Are they still carbed?

They lack a bit of performance compared to the TL, but hey, we all know HP isn't the be all and end all of bikes.

They are Sterile.

TLS is evil

[horkn]

yes still carbed, and still suck. yes they are that poopy on range. honda added a larger tank for euro versions a couple years ago, but didnt bring that stateside. anyways, its supposed to be redone fornext year, and from what i saw, it looks even more tls ish