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  • TLR vs. TLS Ergonomics

    Did not want to hijack the thread about the why choose one over the other but I need to know.


    Is the TLS really more comfortable than the TLR. I would love a long distance cruiser but not really ready to look at the chrome chariots yet?

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  • #2
    The crome chariots SUX big time at long distance cruising. At least, if you want to go as fast as legal speed.

    Have a friend who used to own a Fazer 1000, he bought a VTX 1800 lst year, he sold it a few weeks a go, his back couldnt take it any longer!
    He said it┤s OK in the city, and low speed, but freeway and the likes plain sucked! Not because it was booring, but beacuse it hurts!

    Now he bought the Yama ha Tourer. Forgot the name...
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    • #3
      Some people feel its actually less comfortable than the R-more stretched out...

      Add that to the fact that it's less powerful and less attractive and you wonder what people are thinking...











      and here it comes....

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      • #4
        I wanted a full fairing, that is why I chose the TLR
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        • #5
          the 97 TLS has the same power but more down low where most use it, less up top of course. Put a Corbin seat and Heli bars on a TLS and you can cruise all day long but still have the power to show those Harley guys who makes the real bikes
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          • #6
            I've done many thousand + mile weekends on the tiller, longest day was about a 600 miler.

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            • #7
              Due to a recent crash on my TLS and a good friend that lent me his TLR for 3 months (he has a R6, F4i, and a MilleR that he also let me have for a couple of weeks) I can say that the S is more comfortable for rides longer than an hour. I spent alot of time on the R, but could not feel my hands or butt after about an hour. The bars on the R are lower and your butt is up higher in relation to your hands, giving more of a forward weight bias. Stock for stock I would choose the S over the R (at least my 97) for performance AND comfort. I think you could make more improvement to the R and end up with a better bike.

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              • #8
                the seat on an S is definitely better

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                • #9
                  S is better, especially with helibars and a gel seat!
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                  • #10
                    I chose my '97 "S" as the "R" had not even come out yet when I bought it!

                    Once I get my hands on something, I tend to modify it to taste and keep it for awhile. I suffered with my last bike, a 1987 Kawi Ninja 750, for 10 years. It was 10 long years spent trying to get that flexi flyer framed 16" front wheeled pasta forked pig to handle. It was a fruitless endeavor The thing made nice power though and was durable - 75K miles, no problems of note.

                    My time with the TLS has been far more rewarding. A bit of suspension surgery and it rails good 'nuff. Helibars and Corbin rescued my ass and back. Power was never an issue
                    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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                    • #11
                      S is more comfy mn my opinion/
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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          you have to stop hating tl1kr....

                          the dyno sheets i have prove the 97 tls (mine at least) has more power than a similarily equiped tlr.....



                          anyways. the s is way more comfortable ergonomically the the R. always will be. but i', with duken... corbin and heli bars. and 600 mile days are nothing on an S with these mods...

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                          • #14
                            600 miles with a stock setup r with a full backpack on ain't to bad either.......... 300's a walk in the park, even with my loaded pack!

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                            • #15
                              Definatly an S with a gel seat and heli's...

                              You'd be hard pressed now to find a gel seat for an R (I just got a used one for a friend) and time will tell how it holds up to the extra heat from the full fairings...
                              Just a few mods:

                              Silver, the fastest color!

                              On the inside - HID type bulbs, K&N filter, Iridium ix plugs, 16T front sprocket, Coerce billet sprocket cover, Yosh re-map +5, +5, +5 11 o'clock, Scorpio SE-i500 system from my GB and an ATRE.

                              On the outside - TLR forks, front carbon fender, 5/8th master brake cylinder, black SS brake lines (frnt & rear), braking waves all around with Ti bolts, Brembo gold front calipers & a busa gold rear caliper, flush mount signals (frnt & rear), ZG DB scr

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