First fall...i have a problem.

[aphex09]

I do my first fall today and i m ok...
and after the crash i try to start my baby tls and it s start directly.
But 10 minutes later it s come to be more dificult...now, impossible to start the engine...

[Seca]

Need more details on whats its doing. Is it cranking....iis it making any kind of noise?

[aphex09]

explain

fuel pump do sound, no special message or check light, and when i puch the starter,starter motor turn, engine try to go but nothing appear...
the radiator is hiting but no dommage, hit near of the "temperature water sensor" at left, possible it s due to that ?
and the "chamber vacuum" do some "ding ding" when i tuch it...is it normal
nothing other special.

[SDTLR]

Glad you are okay, was it a driveway crash:dunno

[katana750]

anyone got any more ideas?
We were already in the chatroom and Rupes suggested plugs.

Other ideas? Bike fell on the left side. Radiator is dinged.
He has fuel, plugs are wet, no warning indications. Has spark.

[Rupes]

Has spark ??

When I was mounting a quickshifter and had the bike apart .. I fired it up to test it and it wouldnt start, first I thought must have been the quickshifter was cutting out a circuit somewhere. Double and triple checked not that. Checked everything else then finally looked at the plugs. I did what I normally do on a car and and unsrew the plug out connect it back to the ignition wire and hold the body of it on a ground somewhere and see if it sparks. Sure enough it sparked. Having ruled that out I packed it up into the van and took it to a mechanic. Two hours later he calls me to come pick it up, its fixed. I asked what was wrong with it and he says "nothing, just needed new plugs" wtf ... $90 for a bloody plug swap... live and learn, embarassing too cause I told him I'd checked this and that etc. That was my first experience of that problem, and now its the first thing I'd check before anything else. Trust me Aphex, put a new set in and give it a go, even if it doesnt work you wont find yourself carting it to a mechanic just to find out that was all that was wrong with it.

Even tho they were stuffed they were still sparking, maybe they need quite a bit of spark to ignite all that fuel/air big cylinders ya know. I even heard a dyno operator refer to big twins as dirty motors cause of there tendencie to foul the plugs, I4's dont have that problem, well at least not as bad.

[katana750]

Yep...he has checked for spark (we are still in chat) and the spark is more yellowish.
Should be a nice blue...

[dragonbro]

does the tip over sensor cut fuel or spark just a thought. i understand he says plugs are wet and are sparking, so that leaves air in the mixture needed for combustion. i'm assuming its getting air.........air filter not oil or fuel soaked from the tip over. air box came loose or vacuum line off? sounds very irratiating

what about the kick stand switch......thats on the left side?

[aphex09]

PROBLEM SOLVE

MOTOR CAN START NOW !!!

It was just the PLUGS , thk rupes !

and thx at all !

[dragonbro]

[_2002TLRJAY_]

rupes is the man

[horkn]

nice call rupes!

and glad you were able to start the tls, aphex