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    My tl1000r -98 is a import from germany, its supposed to have 72kw according to my registration papers. German tl1000r that i can find come in two variants 99kw or 72kw, i found som info on a dutch site that said that german 72kw vere restricted in the throttle body down to 25millimeters(although i cant read dutch very well =) ), i do not have any 25 millimeter restrictors in there it is as free it can be, i guess any sane person would get anything like that out of the TB.

    I havent got it on a dyno yet so maybe i shouldnt complain but shouldnt i get the front wheel up and off the ground in 2:nd gear if its has the 99kw unrestricted and using the TRE mod ?

    Other than the TRE there is only bolt-ons and they do quite alot of differense compared to the original mufflers.

    Can someone tell me if the the restriction is in the EMS by using different ignition/fuelmaps ? and could this be corrected using a yoshimura thingy ? i understand that the yosh box alters the original maps or do an Pc2 help ?

    thanks fo any tips
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    well, i have heard of tb restrictor plates, but if they are not there.... well, someone was smart.

    aftermarket mufflers will wake up your bike

    and a remap will take care of any restrictions i believe.

    the tre is a great cheap mod, get jeffs semi active tre

    i would think if the german tillers were restricted, they would be more retarded than u.s. models, and the tre would fix that....

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    • #3
      what is TRE??have been reading so much but have no clue still pls
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      • #4
        Timing retard eliminator http://home.iprimus.com.au/stevebm/tre.html
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        • #5
          eliminate the retards. sounds like we've got a lawsuit coming

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          • #6
            Your TL will wheelie in second, but barely with just the throttle alone. I have to roll on, then off and tug on the bars. It shoots to the sky. Yes I am a squid, thank you very much.
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            • #7
              Hi
              Japanese grey TL's are restricted in the throttle bodies them selves and through the ECU. I can't find the pics I had of my throttle bodies. They're on the TLpit site.

              The japanese grey bikes are resticted via rpm vs gear through the ECU.

              The guys here in SA use a rotary file to remove the restriction and put in an early ECU and the power is inline with the UK bikes we normally get here.

              I'm not sure if the same restriction would be done on the German /Dutch bikes in terms of the throttle body restriction.
              Thanks
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              • #8
                I have a Belgian '99 TLR and it's also restricted at 72 Kw (100 HP).

                I talked to my mechanics teacher about that.
                He's a Kawa dealer and contacted one of his Suzuki collegues.
                Apparently all you need is re-route one or two wires

                As soon as know the exact procedure (we'll be doing it in class soon ) I'll let you know!
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                • #9
                  gotta love free horse power....

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                  • #10
                    thanks for the info all, Schussboelie please dont forget to post your info on this ! thanks.

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                    • #11
                      Re: A question about restrictors or restrictions.

                      Originally posted by Schussboelie View Post
                      I have a Belgian '99 TLR and it's also restricted at 72 Kw (100 HP).

                      I talked to my mechanics teacher about that.
                      He's a Kawa dealer and contacted one of his Suzuki collegues.
                      Apparently all you need is re-route one or two wires

                      As soon as know the exact procedure (we'll be doing it in class soon ) I'll let you know!
                      Hiya. Found this old thread about the restrictions.. My TLR is also a Dutch version with 72Kw. Can't seem to find the info about the wires mentioned here Is it possible to tell from ECU wires if it is restricted or not?
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                      • #12
                        Re: A question about restrictors or restrictions.

                        Well my derestriction never happened so I won't be of any help...
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                        • #13
                          Re: A question about restrictors or restrictions.

                          Originally posted by antz View Post
                          Hiya. Found this old thread about the restrictions.. My TLR is also a Dutch version with 72Kw. Can't seem to find the info about the wires mentioned here Is it possible to tell from ECU wires if it is restricted or not?
                          You could probably tell from the ECU part number. eBay a derestricted ECU.

                          Some have cut the #25 (I think it was - a brown wire?) off the ECU for derestriction, but I have no person experience with that and it's goes to a lot of sensors and is used on the derestricted ECU's so grab another ECU.
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