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  • Damn, riding buddy got a huge ticket

    I will leave his ID out of it unless he wants to talk about it. This is what happend. Went riding in the twisties, shot a small wheelie video, weather was beautiful, no traffic. Life was good. Riding the usual "pace" pretty much 65 everywhere, speed limit is 55. 65 is fun around most of the corners and it is not so fast as it will land you a major ticket. You will get a ticket however, they are "zero tolerance" pricks up there. I figure 1 ticket every 18 months is just a "cost of riding". I traffic school it online and that is that.

    Well we stopped to rest and shoot the wheelie vid. My buddy mentioned the long straight stretch that was lying ahead and asked if it was patrolled. "Not usually", I said, but I also added that like to always ride it first to "sweep it" if I plan to haul ass down it.

    Mind you, it is 4 lanes wide, arrow straight, in the middle of the desert and about as safe a place to air it out that I know if. I went 185 on another buddy's Hayabusa there. Plenty of room to run.

    Unfortunately, my partner today charged onto the straight. I began to give chase for a bit, but warily looked down the road about 2 miles and thought I saw the shadowy outline of a car sitting under a tree a few miles ahead. I was not sure, but had a sneaking suspicion. I backed off to 60 mph. My buddy hauled ass, I am guessing 135. He was ripping.

    The car starts to move and I see the flashing lights come on. By this time he is probably at least 3/4 a mile ahead of me (distance is a bit hard to judge but way far enough so there is no way a human without binoculars could see any detail. The cop car goes after him. I flip a u-turn (all this mayhem is, as I said, 3/4 of a mile in front of me) and head the other way at normal 65 mph speed.

    First question. What do you guys do if presented with this situation? Technically I was briefly speeding. I have also been pulled over up there when I was actually going the speed limit (at the end of the day, going home through the heavy patrol zone) and written for 60 in a 45. I flipped that u-turn as the cop likely would have written me for 100 mph plus too. I know how they are up there - giant pricks. On the other hand, I hate to split on a buddy.

    Now it gets interesting.

    I go back up the road a few miles and decide there was no way the cop could positively ID me as I was so far away. Sport bikes ridden by guys in leathers are a common sight on that road on a Saturday morning. I head back as my buddy is not familar with that area and I wanted him to see me go by so he would follow me up the road later. Stupid decision on my part.

    I approach the pulled over buddy and the cop on the side of the road, going the speed limit. I do not look at the cop. I make a turn onto another road (they were pulled over near an intersection) and hear the cop yell "hey!". I pretend I did not hear him, keep on going, not acccelerating hard, but brisk, never look back or even check the mirros, and ride off at the speed limit until out of sight, then I put the hammer down. That particular road is fast. I have run it at 100 mph. I did 95 today, smooth and comfortable. Just wanted to put a little time and space between me and the cop.

    So, I am home now and have not heard from my friend. I called his house, no answer. I am afraid they impounded his bike. He was going awful fast.

    The hell of it is, I hope I did not make it worse on him with my stupid little ride by.

    Damn. I feel bad for my friend and somewhat responsible.

    Los Angeles has too many squids throwing themselves off that road and it has brought major attention from the authorities. My buddy rides responsibly and within his limits. He is not a squid, just a guy who wanted to air out his bike a bit on a very straight and appropriately remote road. Ya, it is against the law, but it just sucks.

    I am always cagily running the gauntlet up there, have been doing it for years. Maybe we gotta get up to Crashtd's way where the cops are not so thick and apparently not such pricks.
    Last edited by Duken4evr; 08-02-2003, 07:08 PM.
    "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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    I don't know dude. I agree you riding by your friend and the cop while they were pulled over wasn't the smartest thing to do. Usually when I ride with some buddies and one of us gets pulled over, the rest of the group rides to the nearest gas station and waits it out. Don't need tickets for the whole group
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    • #3
      its usually more all or none with us....although i don't really ever worry about getting a ticket, ojai isn't really patrolled, and they're usually pretty cool about it all

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      • #4
        Seems to me you did the smart thing.

        No use both of you getting a ticket.
        There is no way Officer friendly could have known you were the second bike (positive ID, that is) since he never got your plate the first time.

        Hopefully your buddy made out ok.
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        • #5
          Oh he was after me alright.

          Damn I should not have ridden back, but I did so as I did not want to leave a buddy hanging.

          This is why I usually ride the twisties alone. Need to make the trek to Ojai and ride with some friends where it is not such a risk. Los Angeles is just too populated. It is so over with in this town. Must get out...
          Last edited by Duken4evr; 08-02-2003, 03:55 PM.
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          • #6
            you did the right thing for leaving,but you should have not gone back the way the crime was commented,you would have been guilty by assiciation,petty as it was.as for waiting around at the gas station thats the first place they go looking for the rest.(the nearest one)ive been chased a few times and its best to seperate from the crew and meet up where the gathering took place first.too bad for ur boy but its a price we pay when we play the game.i dont think you pussed out.if i were with you i would have given you the sighn to keep it movin theres no sense in both of us getting screwed.you would have pussed out if you would have stopped for the cop.not only would have that been pussy ass schitt to do but also stupid,me being the cop i would have givin you a bunch of tickets for being stupid for stopping.
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            • #7
              me being the cop i would have givin you a bunch of tickets for being stupid for stopping.
              Hehe. Thanks for making me feel better.

              My buddy is OK, all considered.

              He got radared at 118 mph, which is fortunate, as he was going a lot faster. Sounds like he peaked out in 5th, which is probably pushing well into the 140's. The cop was going to impound and jail him, but he saw my friend is not a hooligan and actually cut him some slack. Shocking.

              The cop indeed wanted me and said, ya I recognize that bike. "I have seen him before and I will be looking for him." I know he has as I recognize his name, he wrote me a ticket about 9 months ago, 71 in a 55. I Not too many red TLS bikes running around these parts. Sometimes I wish I had a B/W GSXR like everyone else

              Time to let that particular road rest for a bit, until I get the DRZ400 motarded, that is

              I also invited my friend to do a STAR school with me this fall. That would be fun and cheaper than what he is going through now.
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              • #8
                Well...
                at least only 1 ticket out of the incident....
                Yepper, Still Alive.

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                    Balls... That's not something you can do traffic school for is it? Sorry to hear about it.

                    You could always find out where the cop lives and give him 4 flat tires on court day?
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                    • #11
                      Duken.. 'ya didn't puss out, but you did second guess yourself and coulda gotten screwed yourself just for being there.. Good thing you kept going...
                      I've got a huge penis, You've got a huge penis, even Tim over there, yup you guessed it, huge penis. Good, now that that's out of the way, let's go ride

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by katana750
                        Seems to me you did the smart thing.

                        No use both of you getting a ticket.
                        There is no way Officer friendly could have known you were the second bike (positive ID, that is) since he never got your plate the first time.

                        Hopefully your buddy made out ok.


                        Bad idea to go back, but we are all big boys now, we know the risks, I would not expect a mate to stop with me, hell, in fact I would expect a mate to f*ck off as quickly as possible...

                        What you really need to do is find somewhere there are NO speed limits
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                        • #13
                          as much as the little heads slamming into brick walls sum up my feelings, i feel maybe i should say my peace.

                          1 - all the thanks in the world to duken for the schooling, after just a ride and a half i feel like im 5x more comfortable with turns.

                          2 - duken did the right thing in making an evasive manuever and i am glad he left unscathed. period.

                          3 - i am definitely a little heavy hearted here. i feel embarrassed. i made a negative contribution to the sportbike perception, one more statistic. regardless that it was one wide, straight, empty road, i unnecessarily risked my driving privledges.

                          4 - i will not be doing this again for a long time. i get to go 126 or so mph almost every weekend at the drags. and i dont have to be a criminal to do it. and there are a lotta those curving tracks nearby too.

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                          • #14
                            tls bill

                            i certainly dont hold the officer in the wrong on this one. no brother. maybe riders get hassled for being riders up there. i was completely in the wrong here. that officer was doing his job. ive only really tried for top end on this bike once before and may i say i am glad i could slow down before he got my number. if i knew my way around up there i may have acted differently. maybe this could be another wadded up tls thread...

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                            • #15
                              maybe this could be another wadded up tls thread...
                              Nah, don't be too hard on yourself.

                              You did an unwise thing going down that section at that speed without doing the "sweep and clear" maneuver. That was a mistake, to be sure. On the other hand, at no time have I ever seen you do anything unsafe or even remotely stupid on your bike. You ride the curves at your speed, you are learning and you have always kept your ego in check. You are a very mature and experienced rider. You can run rings around me lane splitting on the freeway (damn, doing that makes me edgy) and have a thing or two to teach me at the drag strip. That will have to be our next venue

                              You remind me of my friend Myles. He wadded his first TLS trying to keep up with me. He got an RC51. I was horrified. He proved me wrong though, he learned. Now he rides tons of track days and is far faster than me around a racetrack. He has only been riding two years. I like to take credit, as I taught him good habits out of the chute. He was a clean slate. He let his ego get away from him just that one time.

                              You have not ever shown any signs of making that mistake. You just wanted to air out your bike a bit on a nice open stretch of road...
                              "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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