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  • TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE????

    Im hesitant to start this forum cuz i notice alot of the tlr and busa riders are usually not aggressive riders. but im very curious...any of you into wheelies?...i had a busa for 5 years, downgraded to a srad to mess around with wheelies..but it was too much of a drop in torque for me so here i am...on a tl1000r 2002 model which a friend talked me into. Now i realize this is a large bike for stunting but i love the torque this beast puts out. my question to you guys is are wheelies gonna kill this tl1000r??..the chain that came on the bike popped while i was throwing it up on some nice roads. i replaced the chain thinking it was the age of the chain probably....along with the rear sprocket...front sprocket seems fine...3 weeks later on almost the same road doing the same thing i popped the new chain. Now keep in mind i went with a clip master link. not sure if this wouldve made much difference but the chain did pop at the master link. what u guys thinking when u hear this scenario...is this bike too much for one wheel?? is there anybody out there who wheelies and have been wheeleing their tl for years and had any problems Guys keep in mind ive learned people buy bikes for different reasons..so before u do any insulting keep in mind some of us want the look..some of us like the sound...some of us use it for commuting...some just wanna pose..lol, i like aggressive street and highway riding, and getting low in curves. i dont care about looking good and ive been down on a few bikes in my 11 year run...i love the POWER. Informed riders please give me some feedback...thanx. Oh and fyi the front sprocket is 16 teeth the rear is 42.....peace!!!
    Last edited by BLAK BASTID; 06-19-2010, 03:34 PM.

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    Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

    Had my S for 10 years or so and in that time its spent its fair share of time on one wheel with no problems,wouldnt be using a clipped master link on any chain myself,long wheelies may well see the front cylinder starving for oil and constant wheelies are hard on head bearings etc.

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    • #3
      Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

      okay..the rivet link id have to get riveted on...not really good with the install thats why i went with the clip and paid the price..but it couldve been worse than messing up the rear sprocket so im thankful..thanx MIKE

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      • #4
        Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

        yeah i would do away with the clip style master link. she's a big girl so if your gonna be on one wheel alot it would be a good idea for you to learn how to do fork seals. cause your gonna blow em. i don't know about what kind of effect it will have on the motor long term...... ie- starving for oil etc, but keep in mind, she's a big girl and she demands respect. so be safe on your one wheel adventures.

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        • #5
          Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

          TL's just beg to be wheelied but the oil pump pickup is poorly situated and the engine will starve if you hold it up in the air. Knock Knock whos there? buggered big ends!

          the aprillia mille is a better prospect as a wheelie bike. but its not a TL

          As for breaking chains. you are doing somethng wrong. My S lifts the front wheel just by rolling on the throttle hard . no need to snap the clutch and rev its guts out.
          Last edited by The Ring-In; 06-19-2010, 05:22 PM.
          www.cycleinnovations.com.au

          It never ceases to amaze why people ask for advice then when I give it they either ignore it or argue against it.
          But then I don't know all that much about TL's

          wwjd.......what would jimmy do.

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          • #6
            Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

            Im down with power wheelies. Roll on har in first or bounce it in second, lift for a bit, 11 o'clockers', then down, accellerating hard to save seals. Never blown one on this bike but had an older bike that blew seals all the time.
            TRE, Galfer Brake and Clutch Lines w/Dot 5, Airbox Mod, Yosh Exhaust, +2rear sprocket, Sprung for 240, GoPro

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            • #7
              Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

              Originally posted by tl1000rlt View Post
              Im down with power wheelies. Roll on har in first or bounce it in second, lift for a bit, 11 o'clockers', then down, accellerating hard to save seals. Never blown one on this bike but had an older bike that blew seals all the time.
              yeah..i like to power it...and i was messing around with bouncing it in second off the clutch on standups...it comes up alot easier with the bounce your absolutely right....ive done decent on seals as well....i dont know man like dude said it does beg to be wheelied...i ride a m109 for the cruising...when im on this tiller i just wanna beast out..it feels like it has more torque than my 02 busa
              Last edited by BLAK BASTID; 06-19-2010, 10:08 PM.

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              • #8
                Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                Originally posted by shelby2008 View Post
                yeah i would do away with the clip style master link. she's a big girl so if your gonna be on one wheel alot it would be a good idea for you to learn how to do fork seals. cause your gonna blow em. i don't know about what kind of effect it will have on the motor long term...... ie- starving for oil etc, but keep in mind, she's a big girl and she demands respect. so be safe on your one wheel adventures.
                shelby i hear u...its a beast and im not that light myself...so thats a combination of alot of weight on that animal...we will see what happens this summer...im not interested in height as much as distance but from what i understand this bike is terrible for long wheelies...i guess we will see cuz stopping now isnt an option im getting them better by the day..

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                • #9
                  Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                  Originally posted by The Ring-In View Post
                  TL's just beg to be wheelied but the oil pump pickup is poorly situated and the engine will starve if you hold it up in the air. Knock Knock whos there? buggered big ends!

                  the aprillia mille is a better prospect as a wheelie bike. but its not a TL

                  As for breaking chains. you are doing somethng wrong. My S lifts the front wheel just by rolling on the throttle hard . no need to snap the clutch and rev its guts out.
                  well...from my experience its a more controlled wheelie off the clutch...i havent tried to power it in second...in first u can power it all day...true u do run out of revs off the clutch but thats mainly in first gear...besides one of the first things i noticed about this tlr is the gears are very short...it redlines faster than any bike ive owned so far....kinda frustrating at first...but im dealing with it

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                  • #10
                    Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                    check the rear sprocket Its probably been increased in size its a common mod.
                    www.cycleinnovations.com.au

                    It never ceases to amaze why people ask for advice then when I give it they either ignore it or argue against it.
                    But then I don't know all that much about TL's

                    wwjd.......what would jimmy do.

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                    • #11
                      Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                      As said before: Rivet link on your chain (a good quality strong chain). Keep an eye on your oil level as long distances on the rear wheel will starve it of oil and fill your airbox with oil, and eventually stuff the big ends. Clutching off the mark is crazy as these things wheelie like a big bore four stroke trail bike, too easy. Clutching should be for higher gear high speed wheelies. With the gearing you're running, you shouldn't have any probs with lofting the front in the air.

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                      • #12
                        Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                        Originally posted by BLAK BASTID View Post
                        besides one of the first things i noticed about this tlr is the gears are very short...it redlines faster than any bike ive owned so far....kinda frustrating at first...but im dealing with it
                        Try a Harley engined Buell (XB12R). They have no rev range but still wheelie a treat.

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                        • #13
                          Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                          Originally posted by The Ring-In View Post
                          check the rear sprocket Its probably been increased in size its a common mod.
                          oh yeah i definitely know the gearing....stock i believe is 17/39...i got 16 up front 41 on the rear....thats the basic gearing for wheelies so thats what i started with...and im not dissapointed at all...it just redlines fast in first so i been clutching in second at around 30 mph i guess im not sure what speed cuz i got my eyes focused front...but i never tried to power in 2nd cuz the bounce and clutch has been working beautiful..i cant get it up on the highway at all....lol....in the higher gears...but have not tried to bounce it cuz im not at that level yet to do it at high speed....but sitting down i cant get the wheel off the ground at all at 60mph...i tried to put a pic of the bike up but this site has picky criteria for the size of pics
                          Last edited by BLAK BASTID; 06-19-2010, 10:30 PM.

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                          • #14
                            Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                            When I first got mine I was young and excitable, most of my trips we're full throttle, and on the the back wheel as much as possible. But after $3500 for all new primary gears, countless rear tyres, roughly $20 - $30 grand in fines and a couple of years loss of licence...........not much has changed
                            Now I'm a bit older and wiser, I can spot a police car, van or speed camera from a mile away
                            But yea, 1st, 2nd and 3rd primary's were poked due to wheelie's, so the mechanic tells me

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                            • #15
                              Re: TO WHEELIE OR NOT to WHEELIE?

                              Originally posted by Hrdmanongear View Post
                              When I first got mine I was young and excitable, most of my trips we're full throttle, and on the the back wheel as much as possible. But after $3500 for all new primary gears, countless rear tyres, roughly $20 - $30 grand in fines and a couple of years loss of licence...........not much has changed
                              Now I'm a bit older and wiser, I can spot a police car, van or speed camera from a mile away
                              But yea, 1st, 2nd and 3rd primary's were poked due to wheelie's, so the mechanic tells me
                              WOW!!!....LOL....im speechless

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