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  • My weight savings plan for my TL.

    I have a 1998' TLR with Carbon fiber Yoshi rs-3 bolt ons and a power commander III USB and that is all. I bought the bike 2 years ago and ride it recreationally on the street and enjoy racing other Litre bikes if i see them on the highway.

    I have $2000 to spend (I might wiggle that 250 dollars if it's worth it)
    I would like to lose 50 total lbs over stock just to make the bike easier to move around while parking in the garage mostly, and whatever performance gains I get, bonus.

    -I hear a full titanium exhaust and lightweight cans is about 25lbs lost, since the stock cans are so heavy. Where can i find a titanium exhaust to match my existing RS-3 Bolt on Carbon fibers? I looked with out much luck. I'll keep looking. ~$650? titanium full exhaust, no cans.

    -Replacing the rear stock suspension with possibly Bitubo? $~575 ~5lbs?

    -Light weight front and back rotors. ~$250 ~4lbs ?

    That puts me at 34 pounds lost so far and $1,475 spent

    What's next? How much does a lightweight rear set shave off?

    Does someone make a strong lightweight Aluminum frame that I could swap in over a long weekend project? (I am mechanically inclined)

    Your thoughts are appreciated, Thank you.
    Last edited by Tony's TL; 08-13-2010, 04:26 PM.

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    Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

    Well for one, the only full ti exhaust that I know of for the bike is tiforce, and they are like $1200 + shipping. Also, no full exhaust I have ever hear of will keep the bolt on pattern, though there is a member here that makes/had made adapters. I think in order to drop the 50# you want, it will cost more then you have to spend. You could yank the headlight, and the stock fairings off the bike and go race only, that with the mode you already listed should get you there.
    Mike Rock
    NESBA #506 '98 TLR
    American cycle performance MRP motorsports

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    • #3
      Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

      That's pretty optimistic for rotors, unless you are going the narrow-band rotor route with 4 pot calipers. I just put on Revolution Rotors and total savings were only 1.2 lbs. They have a helluva lot less material that factory.

      Rearsets would likely be about the same. Gilles makes one of the lightest around. The sacrifice is a tiny peg, and very limited adjustability with the aftermarket exhaust in the way. My sets are all the way up, and all the way forward, with only 1/8" clearance.
      Factory sets are alloy as well, and not very heavy. I would guess 2 lbs, optimistically.

      There was a post I came across some time ago. With an Ohlins rear, weight savings are approx 9 lbs. Not sure what the Bitubo is.

      This is unconfirmed, but I think changing all of the fasterners used in the bike would also be a significant weight savings. Swicth to Ti and Al...think about all of those nuts and bolts; they add up fast.

      From reading historical threads, the 3 best reasonable diet methods are;
      1) wheels
      2) shock
      3) exhaust

      If you are very ambitious with deep pockets, a trellis frame should be on the list. Maybe even a Bimota SB8R frame.

      Look for ETBadger's TLR. He went to the deep-pockets EXTREME to put his TLR on a diet.

      If you ask Old Sup, your money would best be spent on the exhaust (M4 or TiForce) and wheels (RC Components, BST, Marchesini, or Carrozeria).
      Last edited by Suprachrgd82; 08-13-2010, 04:55 PM.
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      • #4
        Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

        Hey man i did A full m4 exhaust on mine , Marchesini 5 spoke mags , and a le penske rear . It feels like a complete different bike . just in the exhaust and rear setup you are looking at 2 grand then the wheels anywhere from $800-2400 for a good set new or used. Next on my list will be rotors and a set of vans rear sets
        2003 TL1000R Yellow/Black
        Full Carbon M4 Exhaust, Marchesini's 5 Spoke Magnesiums, SuperSprox 17-41 , LE Penske Rear, Scotts Steering Damper, .90kg Fork Springs, Race Tech Gold Valves, Fp Folding Tactical Levers , D3 Clip ons & Grips, Pc 3 Dynojet , Galfer SS Brake & Clutch Lines, K&N Filter, Joe V Mod, Pair Valve Mod, Fender Eliminator, Speedohealer, GI Pro Atre , Zero Gravity Dubble Bubble, Corbin Seat,(Vans CCC,Plate,Triple,Rear Brake Reservoirs,1mm Swingarm)

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        • #5
          Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

          With some luck you could try find a 2 into 1 exhaust and put on a full Ti can, this could weight around 11lbs. Compared to almost 18lbs for one stock can. But full system or not, with some very light cans you will gain a lot. These are located at a very awkward spot anyway.

          Suspension is definatly a good one because that is worth replacing anyway. A Bitubo weighs little over 7lbs, Íhlins little over 9lbs (mounting hardware included). Stock aprox 12lbs.

          Wheels could loose a lot of weight too but are usually not cheap. When you want to loose weight on the rotors you'd have to source a set of braking wave's with a carbon fibre center. A straight fit and lighter then the 6mm thick narrowbands. Putting on four pots instead is a good idea tho

          A TLS swingarm instead of the TLR one will make a big difference too. But as with wheels and discs, these are fairly low down on the bike. The most noticable gains wheel hauling it around in the garage are made in the upper part of the bike. So maybe a lighter fuel tank will feel like a bigger difference. Taking of the clipons and put on some higher and wider mx bars should help move it around a lot too, more leverage.

          Many little things to leave off or replace too

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          • #6
            Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

            Easiest way to drop 50lbs is to give up cheeseburgers and beer. Otherwise its going to cost you. If you are willing to cut off the unnecessary items on the bike, it can be done. But not even close to $2250.00. I would know.

            Your best bet to reduce weight is via rotating mass. Start with Marchesinis. Then the exhaust. You will NOT find a 2 into 1 for the TLR from a manufacturer. It must be custom made. The shock and damper replacements are a must even if it isnt for the weight savings. Be careful to get a shock that can support your weight. Get a sharkskinz set of bodywork, and hack the tail. Plenty of ti is readily available. It will cost you though. Eti fuel cell too. The stock tank is a total pig. Gilles GP Light clip ons. And anything that Vandriver makes as well. Not alot of carbon to be found for these bikes, and when it is found, rarely is it vacuum formed as opposed to wet multi layered and heavier in most cases than the stock stuff.

            Starting to sound like my bike as I am writing this...... Damn, I spent too much money (again).
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            • #7
              Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

              Holy chit a fuel cell !!! New item being added to the list
              2003 TL1000R Yellow/Black
              Full Carbon M4 Exhaust, Marchesini's 5 Spoke Magnesiums, SuperSprox 17-41 , LE Penske Rear, Scotts Steering Damper, .90kg Fork Springs, Race Tech Gold Valves, Fp Folding Tactical Levers , D3 Clip ons & Grips, Pc 3 Dynojet , Galfer SS Brake & Clutch Lines, K&N Filter, Joe V Mod, Pair Valve Mod, Fender Eliminator, Speedohealer, GI Pro Atre , Zero Gravity Dubble Bubble, Corbin Seat,(Vans CCC,Plate,Triple,Rear Brake Reservoirs,1mm Swingarm)

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              • #8
                Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                Why spend thousands when you can achieve the same result for $10 at Jenny Craig.

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                • #9
                  Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                  Do you want fries with that??

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                  • #10
                    Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                    For those of us across the pond in UK what is Jenny Graig a fitness club? In anticipation of a sensible answer, Bob.

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                    • #11
                      Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                      Originally posted by Oholiab View Post
                      For those of us across the pond in UK what is Jenny Graig a fitness club? In anticipation of a sensible answer, Bob.
                      Not really a fitness club, more like a weight loss one..... They supply you with bullsh!t meals and all for the membership fee. Give you a diet plan, etc. Im not sure if they actually have gyms you can go work out in or not. I do believe they have yoga classes and such though.......
                      Mike Rock
                      NESBA #506 '98 TLR
                      American cycle performance MRP motorsports

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                      • #12
                        Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                        Well i cant really afford to lose any weight im 6'3'' 160lbs so i have to take as much weight off the bike i can
                        2003 TL1000R Yellow/Black
                        Full Carbon M4 Exhaust, Marchesini's 5 Spoke Magnesiums, SuperSprox 17-41 , LE Penske Rear, Scotts Steering Damper, .90kg Fork Springs, Race Tech Gold Valves, Fp Folding Tactical Levers , D3 Clip ons & Grips, Pc 3 Dynojet , Galfer SS Brake & Clutch Lines, K&N Filter, Joe V Mod, Pair Valve Mod, Fender Eliminator, Speedohealer, GI Pro Atre , Zero Gravity Dubble Bubble, Corbin Seat,(Vans CCC,Plate,Triple,Rear Brake Reservoirs,1mm Swingarm)

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                        • #13
                          Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                          Ok, thanks Mikey for the explanation, Bob.

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                          • #14
                            Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                            Originally posted by jaknark View Post
                            Well i cant really afford to lose any weight im 6'3'' 160lbs so i have to take as much weight off the bike i can
                            Heck at 6'3" your are plenty tall enough to lose a few pounds, just go to the Dr, tell them to take 3" from your shins, and 3" from you thighs....... that should be good for 10#'s...... probably cheaper then dropping 10# from the bike too........
                            Mike Rock
                            NESBA #506 '98 TLR
                            American cycle performance MRP motorsports

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                            • #15
                              Re: My weight savings plan for my TL.

                              lol dont want to be any shorter would be nice at times
                              2003 TL1000R Yellow/Black
                              Full Carbon M4 Exhaust, Marchesini's 5 Spoke Magnesiums, SuperSprox 17-41 , LE Penske Rear, Scotts Steering Damper, .90kg Fork Springs, Race Tech Gold Valves, Fp Folding Tactical Levers , D3 Clip ons & Grips, Pc 3 Dynojet , Galfer SS Brake & Clutch Lines, K&N Filter, Joe V Mod, Pair Valve Mod, Fender Eliminator, Speedohealer, GI Pro Atre , Zero Gravity Dubble Bubble, Corbin Seat,(Vans CCC,Plate,Triple,Rear Brake Reservoirs,1mm Swingarm)

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