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  • TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

    I replaced my steering stem head bearings early this season (if I remember correctly) with rollers because the ball race on the bottom had cracked and damaged the bore in the frame.
    The symptom that showed the failure was a heavy click on heavy front brake application.
    10,000 km (6000 mi) later I heard a very similar click under hard braking again
    I exposed the bearings again and discovered the new problem. The bore was 40 thousandths of an inch longer than wide on top and 22 thou longer on the bottom!
    I very carefully swaged and wedged the bores back into shape and am riding with fingers crossed!
    Is the TLR frame as weak? I've never seen one up close.
    Run over on: '98 TL1000S
    Riding: '98 TL1000R fighter
    Drooling over: '02 TL1000R

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    Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

    The tlr has a replaceable insert that holds the bearing races
    www.cycleinnovations.com.au

    It never ceases to amaze why people ask for advice then when I give it they either ignore it or argue against it.
    But then I don't know all that much about TL's

    wwjd.......what would jimmy do.

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    • #3
      Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

      The TLS head bearing seats generally only get damaged after a front end smash and they go oval. Also if you look inside the headstock the vertical rib gets a wave in it

      Here's some pics of one a seller sold me




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      • #4
        Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

        Originally posted by Sam

        Here's some pics of one a seller sold me

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        geez they'll try anything lol. did ya get your money back

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        • #5
          Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

          Originally posted by zedxten
          geez they'll try anything lol. did ya get your money back
          Yes, certainly did.

          You can see the tell tale kink in the rib, good to know
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          • #6
            Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

            Wow lots of clear evidence but only after looking in depth. The only outward sign would have been the two dimples on the bottom.

            Mine however was in no accident. I think the damn thing is just soft.

            Any one got pics of the TLR frame?
            I'm considering a TLR build if it's stronger.
            Run over on: '98 TL1000S
            Riding: '98 TL1000R fighter
            Drooling over: '02 TL1000R

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            • #7
              Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

              you really cant take a tls and fit the stuff to an R
              www.cycleinnovations.com.au

              It never ceases to amaze why people ask for advice then when I give it they either ignore it or argue against it.
              But then I don't know all that much about TL's

              wwjd.......what would jimmy do.

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              • #8
                Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

                Too many wheelies perhaps
                People I will not deal with: tl1000swill or tlrwill or crazywheelie or whatever it decides to call himself.

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                • #9
                  Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

                  Originally posted by The Ring-In
                  you really cant take a tls and fit the stuff to an R
                  I won't be trying to transfer parts over from one to the other if I do a TLR build. I'll just start a TLR build
                  Run over on: '98 TL1000S
                  Riding: '98 TL1000R fighter
                  Drooling over: '02 TL1000R

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                  • #10
                    Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

                    Originally posted by Toledo
                    Too many wheelies perhaps
                    Naaaaah couldn't be that!
                    Run over on: '98 TL1000S
                    Riding: '98 TL1000R fighter
                    Drooling over: '02 TL1000R

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                      • #12
                        Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

                        I've searched for a photo of the TLR head stock and come up with nothing. Anyone have a pic? I'm curious.
                        Run over on: '98 TL1000S
                        Riding: '98 TL1000R fighter
                        Drooling over: '02 TL1000R

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                        • #13
                          Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

                          Originally posted by drH
                          I've searched for a photo of the TLR head stock and come up with nothing. Anyone have a pic? I'm curious.

                          Bueller.......Bueller........Bueller?
                          Run over on: '98 TL1000S
                          Riding: '98 TL1000R fighter
                          Drooling over: '02 TL1000R

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                          • #14
                            Re: TLS frame very soft around head bearings!

                            Could we stuff a bunch of carbon fiber in there to make it stronger ??

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