shifting a wheelie

[dsly1]

OK.. i'm getting Damb good at 1st gear wheelies and ok in second gear wheelies.. but now i'm attempting to shift from one to the other but i can't figure out how.. When i'm up, if i let off the throttle to pull in the clutch .. the engine braking drops me hard before i have a chance to pull it in (note when i'm wheeling i have a full grip ) which brings me to my next attempt which is covering the clutch (fully over clutch and with attempts with two fingers). In that case my hand seems to fly off into space and i'm left with a one handed shakey wheelie (very not good).. So who's got that technique down and who can explain it better than I can expain my problem... Cheers....

[MotoTiller]

I think you should PM oldracer he can tell you lots of good info on wheelies

[SWEET-TL1000R]

If you get a response, put it up, I'm interested in hearing about it!

[SDTLR]

dont totally kill the throttle - and try not using the clutch :dunno just don't loop her


oh wait, it's a BW......loop away

[Matt_J]

Hahahahahahaa

[stickboy]

...buy a quickshifter...

[Jokertlr]

Practice powershifting without the clutch when flat on the ground then do that when you are up in the air. You don't need your clutch to shift and as far as I know it is nearly impossible to do while doing a wheelie. Most people either shift to second while the front end is lifting or shift once they hit the balance point and the revs drop.

[TLRLee]

DONT USE THE CLUTCH!!

[yeller_twin]

I get under the shifter with my left foot and pick it up in first. When I get it good and high I ease off the throttle for just a second and bang it into the next gear. Then get back on the throttle.....but, be very careful because to much throttle and your looking at the sky. If the front drops I can get it back up with power. I have found that shifting from 1st to 2nd in a wheelie gives me a very hard shift and sometimes a nuetral. I choose to lift it in 2nd now and bang into 3rd. Seems to be a much smoother shift. To get it up in second I have to bounce it up....two bounces and I'm set.

Are you any good at steering a wheelie? I drift left on occasion and I lean right like no tomorrow and get nothing. Any advice. \

If anyone does a stand up. Do you start sitting, then stand or just start standing up?

[BBriBro]

Re: shifting a wheelie

Originally posted by dsly1
if i let off the throttle to pull in the clutch .. the engine braking drops me hard

You shouldn't have any engine breaking, if you pull in the clutch Just a slight "coasting" but only for a split second, the way you describe it, it seems like you let off the gas, pause for a second, then pull in the clutch to make your shift, it should be simultaneous. My wife drives her car like that, and it annoys me to know end, when I feel the forces reverse and all the gears clunk because she lets off the gas just a bit before pushing in the clutch.

[mjamo]

when you get the bike up in first you need to keep your eyes forward not looking at the clocks! and the top of your screen needs to be in line with the horizon,when you are at about 8000rpm bring the screen approx 50mm above the horizon,then without using the clutch change up into second blipping the throttle,which should bring your screen back on the horizon,same applies 2nd to 3rd and so on, i use the back brake to get the bike up,using this it will lift very smoothly in any of the the first three gears. hope this has been of some use,works for me and i can lift in first at 10mph and go through 2nd, 3rd and into 4th.

[TLRJim]

i use the back brake to get the bike up,using this it will lift very smoothly in any of the the first three gears.

Can you explain how this works ?

[mjamo]

when you pull a wheelie and you slip the clutch, just before you release the clutch dab the back brake. which will bounce the front end and up you go, if any you guys want more info on this technique let me know,using this technique the wheelies are totally controlled and anyone can wheelie using it.

[BBriBro]

Originally posted by mjamo
when you pull a wheelie and you slip the clutch, just before you release the clutch dab the back brake. which will bounce the front end and up you go, if any you guys want more info on this technique let me know,using this technique the wheelies are totally controlled and anyone can wheelie using it.

Is that really necessary, if you are at high RPM, and back off suddenly, the front end dives, (compresses forks) and you can snatch it back up real easy if you open the throttle right after you close it.

[mjamo]

yes your right the front end dives if you back off at high rpm, but using the back brake you can wheelie from 1000rpm and its more controllable. because instead of wacking the throttle off and on and not knowing exactly whats going to happen and how high your going to end, by riding along at say 2000rpm in 1st dipping the clutch,increase revs to 4000rpm hit the back brake,then release clutch (obviously this all happens in under a second)the bike will gently lift and always lift to the same position, and the same principle in 2nd but with 4000rpm and 6000rpm. this is the way i wheelie all the time,and find backing off at high rpm to unpredictable.