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  • TLR gets no respect from SPORT RIDER.

    This is the reason why they didn't compare it to the MILLE,999,RC51. The TLR can't be that bad can it??
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    differences

    Its got that rotary, and 5 yrs working against it with no updates.
    I know nothing about bikes.

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    • #3
      Yet in the same issue they compared an older ZX6 and R1 with mods to the new bikes.

      It would be interesting to compare a TLR, with the benefit of mods, to the stock bikes in the test. As the TLR cost considerably less, some pretty effective mods could be made.

      Bottom line is the RC and Duc are great track bikes but make miserable street bikes. The Aprillia is a good street bike, but even the TLR stomps it in the motor department, at least in EPA legal trim. I wager that Mille would wake right up and run with the others if it had the right chip in it though.

      The TLR is still, after all these years, a great street bike that improves nicely with a few simple mods. I guess that is why we like 'em

      I have to say though, I am loving columnist Jeff Hughes. Check out his "Devil on my shoulder" and "Degrees of control" pieces in the last two issues.

      In a prior post, i went on about trying not to exceed the 80% effort threshold. He covers this same issue in much better detail, characterizing this threshold as the "tipping point" between being smoothly in control and to the point when a rider is going too fast for their skill level, riding ragged and having to make corrections for small errors.

      It was such a damn good piece, I sent a complimentary e-mail to SR. I hope Mr. Hughes continues to crank out such high quality work and gets put in charge of the magazine
      Last edited by Duken4evr; 08-11-2003, 12:49 AM.
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      • #4
        sport rider gets no respect from real motorcyclists

        look at where it is coming from. sport bikes is put out by peterson publishing (the proverbial sh!t bucket of magazine publishers). i am sure since the tl is an older bike and since it is coming to the end of its model life, suzuki wasnt going to put up the extra advertising cash to get a good review. motorcyclist, sport rider, cycle world (the list goes on) are all pretty much crap. read the european mags (fast bikes, performance bikes) and you will notice there isnt alot of manufacturer advertising. this allows them free reign when it comes to reviews. did you know that petersen publishing puts out everything from computer maghs to quilting mags? bottom line...they suck

        and as for kunitsugu, he is fast, i will give him that, buyt he spews the same crap that every reviewer does. ever notice if they say something remotely bad about a bike (not ballsy enough to admit it's a piece o' crap), they follow it with a bunch of good comments. now they wouldnt want "insert manufacturer here" to pull that 2 page ad of their new "insert bike here"

        shoulda seen the zx7 review when it came out. they (fast bikes)told it like it was...a total POS. if i remember right they called it the same POS zephyr, with pretty plastic.
        Last edited by kevh; 08-11-2003, 01:14 AM.

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        • #5
          I don't disagree and have allowed my SR subscription to lapse. I am not sure how many months I have left, they kept sending "renewals" when I had time left on the old one. For all I know, I may have another 3 years of SR coming.

          Columnist Hughes is great though. I predict he will not last long at SR. He does not fit in.

          I enjoy Motorcycle Online. They are more or less an unwanted red headed stepchild in the industry. That is kinda why I like them. I subscribed out of principle more than anything else.
          "The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw

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          • #6
            I personally don't give a crap what the rags think, I know it's an awesome bike.

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            • #7
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              ditto. if i gave a flying crap about what some crap mag said i wouldnt be riding the most under rated bike ever made. too bad most of the readers overlook good bikes because mags like sport rider dont tout it as "the greatest thing since sliced bread" . they wont say anything bad, they just wont say anythig

              2000 tillis plus stuff with some polished stuff and some carbon fiber stuff and a little bit of tlr stuff and some gsxr stuff

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              • #8
                We ride our bikes for ourselves, not for others.

                It always amazes me who knows what I am riding, and who does not. Simply for the fact that I love motorcycles, someone can tell me what they ride, or I can see it, and spout off the name of their bike, all the way to the old Hurricaines.

                But when people see my bike, they just and ask me what it is? Thats when I know they are all out for the latest and gratest things. (Specifically the Hayabusa, ZX-6R and R1 all '03's that park next to me)

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ryno
                  I personally don't give a crap what the rags think, I know it's an awesome bike.
                  I agree 100%.

                  Once I start my TLR -99 with Full M4 System nobody EVER says it´s a crappy bike.


                  Then, they usually looks like this:



                  or



                  or



                  or




                  etc.
                  Anyway, they are so TOTALLY
                  On the street at least.
                  TL1000R -99. Yellow/Black.
                  M4 Full system(Alu), K&N Filter, TRE mod, removed Pair valve. Yoshimura clutch cover, removed Scissor gears, Carbon fibre hugger, carbon fibre rearhugger, HammerIt TLR/R fairings, Gilles Toolings rearset. Pazzo racing levers, shorties, Öhlins rear, Brembo front brakes, ET79 undertail, blah blah blah...
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ryno
                    I personally don't give a crap what the rags think, I know it's an awesome bike.
                    couldnt have said better my self.my only dislike is the rotory thing ,cant wait to get my rear shock.
                    MY MODS:
                    Ackrapovic Evo II full exhaust Head Work,Flowed injectors,Port /Polish exh and intake.cams,subframe,projector headlights,gap mod,Undertray,air/oil breather,pair valve removal,black frame Earth grounding mod . Dynojet PowercommanderII: (Custom Map by Orient Express):Galfer Wave Rotors Front & Rear: Pyramid Hugger:GSXR1k rear brake:A.T.R.E,Galfer Steel braided lines Front & Rear:TLS Cable Clutch Conversion:Woodcraft clipons:Vortex top triple clamp: DID Erv2 gold 520 conversion: Spocket Specialist Titan Tough Sprocket 17/41:GSXR tail: Nocut Frame Sliders:Air Tech Black Chrome Windscreen:LP Carbon Mirrors:Raised Tail 3/4" Ohlins Steering Damper:BRG 1/5 Throttle:GP Tech Fairing Bracket: Clear Alternative tail light:Black rims, ProTeck rearsets.gixxer 1k fender.Bitubo shock,custom projector headlights Race plastics and air tubes by AK composite 3/4 tail rasier custom made by TLDV8
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                    TO BE CONTINUED

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                    • #11




                      Screw 'em
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                      • #12
                        mail them this thread
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by J-Bone
                          mail them this thread
                          You know, this weekend its TRACKDAY!!!!




                          Hopefully I can get into the high 47 / low 48 on the dry track.

                          Did a 50.4 on wet track, first time there with this bike. The good ones do 44-45 on it (Dry weather).


                          Sunday gona bee so nice!

                          And I´ll emty the camera too.

                          TL1000R -99. Yellow/Black.
                          M4 Full system(Alu), K&N Filter, TRE mod, removed Pair valve. Yoshimura clutch cover, removed Scissor gears, Carbon fibre hugger, carbon fibre rearhugger, HammerIt TLR/R fairings, Gilles Toolings rearset. Pazzo racing levers, shorties, Öhlins rear, Brembo front brakes, ET79 undertail, blah blah blah...
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                          • #14
                            Fork them
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                            • #15
                              You will find that most of the people that slag TLR's are small pettit blokes that just don't have the muscle to haul a TLR around.
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