TLR's for the real world.

[gixxerman]

I would like honest real world specs for the TLR.
I know what the mags say and I could really give a flying fuck what they say. They bashed my zx-9 for years and said it was too old and too heavy. But fuck em what do the pepole that own them think.
Here are a few basics I want to know.
What is the average hp for a all stock Tiller(at the wheel)?
What do the common mods give you(full system, pcII, BMC, etc)?
Whats the stock gearing like and whats recomended?
Hows the stock brakes?
Can the RD suspension be made to work ok?
I have seen a few Tillers with gixxer tails on them, how hard?
What is the actual dry/wet weights?

And some genral comparasons, I know they are no atch for my gixx or zx-9 in a strait line but how are their track manners?
Good canyon carvers, are they rear stable at full lean?

[Ryno]

Re: TLR's for the real world.

Originally posted by gixxerman
I would like honest real world specs for the TLR.
I know what the mags say and I could really give a flying fuck what they say. They bashed my zx-9 for years and said it was too old and too heavy. But fuck em what do the pepole that own them think.
Here are a few basics I want to know.
What is the average hp for a all stock Tiller(at the wheel)?
What do the common mods give you(full system, pcII, BMC, etc)?
Whats the stock gearing like and whats recomended?
Hows the stock brakes?
Can the RD suspension be made to work ok?
I have seen a few Tillers with gixxer tails on them, how hard?
What is the actual dry/wet weights?

And some genral comparasons, I know they are no atch for my gixx or zx-9 in a strait line but how are their track manners?
Good canyon carvers, are they rear stable at full lean?

Stock HP 115-120
with pipes and remap 120-125 approx
I personally think the stock rotors and calipers are fine, they just need braided lines. I have PFM rotors, but haven't noticed any huge improvement.
Gave up on the stock shock/rotory damper and bought and Ohlins.
It was the best mod by far to the bike
Don't know how hard the GSXR tail is (I prefer the look of the stocker)
Not sure what the claimed dry/wet weights are.
It takes a little time and effort to set the bike up if you want to ride hard, but once you've got it right it's awesome.

[horkn]

wet weight around 480 pounds. a little less with pair removed and aftermarket pipes. the stock rd apparently works ok, if you are on the 200lb side. lighter guys get beat up by it. but its way better than the rotary on my S. ss lines, like ryno said are a good idea. if you need more, get a brembo master cylinder. but it isnt necessary. hell, i just did a rolling stoppie on my tls with stock brakes(4 pot, rubber lines and stock M/C) not a long one, but yousee my point...anyways. the tl is a sweet bike. and i like zx-9's anyways.....